In this episode of Return to Heart, Jeff Schulte and Phil Herndon discover that they carried remarkably similar wounds from opposite sides of body shame. Jeff grew up believing he was too skinny. Phil grew up ashamed of being overweight. Different bodies—but underneath, a remarkably similar message: something is wrong with me. Jeff and Phil explore body image, body dysmorphia, toxic shame, comparison, self-objectification, and the complicated relationship we can develop with our physical bodies.



